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Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Spirituality and Anti Logics of 'Modern' people

From one of my FB Discussion:

What has happened here is I have said something contentful and unusual. But seems like, You have read it once, found opportunity to respond and responded, a rejectionist attitude rather than a deciphering-it attitude. Not good. Had you attempted to understand it you would have attempted reading it twice or more. Why will I say clearly contradictory things? Am I trying to fool everyone with jargons and words? Certainly not. I voluntary made 5 comments on topic in a row only because I had something contentful to say. I do have a better than common understanding of Spirituality though it is still stub. The good thing is your reply will help me understand the first impression one may have of How I explain it. Where do I have to orient other person to get the flavour of needed thinking to understand the complexity.

1. You missed a very significant word 'current'. I said, "Current science can't understand it". Currently science is far from perfect. Understand that what we term as Science is not the Science in real. It is our understanding of Science. That is why it changes though Science itself is constant since Universe. When humans weren't there to understand it, it was still there. There are many working Science which are yet to be understood. Otherwise CERN and NASA will run out of much of their Bussines.
Yes, correct. There is fully documented and practised way to start understanding things which are not straight to our senses and beyond it 'Normally'. Its a human way and that is why Sprituality exists amid humans. The 'methods' are listening, reading, contemplation, understanding, following and Sadhana (practicing) and then realizing it as it becomes your Personal Experiance. Normal methods to acquire any knowledge. Its the 'Theory' which changes in Sprituality from Western Science. We are making two mistakes:
a) We are rejecting one feild of Knowledge on the basis of other! It's like rejecting Physics on the basis that what West had given us till 2012 is Botany (assume)!! It's a blunder.
b) More than that, we are rejecting a historically proven and constant field of knowledge, out of recent and changing field of Knowledge!!
Actually, why we make this mistake is :
p.1) we have closed ourselves to Western Science (Narrow Mindedness). Since childhood we see only one thing which is convincing too (Botany in analogy) as it suits our normal way of acceptance. So it gets all our 'Faith' and 'Thought Process'. We will find it really tough to think in any 'Different' way initially even if it is correct or more correct or entirely different topic (Physics in analogy).  And naturally we will make that mistake of attempting to 'Reject' it with what we already know though they are different fields.
p.2) The other hurdle is Theory of Spirituality will not get our confidence easily. It is radically different. Obviously, not everything in Universe will have to be suitable to our approach and way of thinking and accepting. Every thing is more or less similar to Western Science except  'Observation' part, as it is pretty complex.
Actually, We are limited in our ability to make needed Observation to prove or disprove the Theory by Mother Nature in normal scenario :( .So the Life Cycle in this Field is different and uncomfortable to our normal way of accepting anything as opposed to Western Science. You need to 'Believe' ie. have 'Faith' first and 'Persevere'. Then you start realizing and start Observing which is not possible by normal senses due to inherent limitations. Claims of many awesome humans that it all becomes a personal experience, several documented mysterious events and proper documentation of Vedas is probably only things which point towards real reality.

Addendum:
The ever perfecting western science is nothing in comparison to perfect spirituality. Western science can be misused and is big failure from many perspective. Refer 'Man the Unknown' by Dr. Alexis Carrel. Spiritual science leads to perfect society concept. The innerself which is the base of all outer experiences (mere a default initial level of consciousness) and itself is hidden, develops and a Human Transcends to higher level of consciousness (she understands what our external senses don't get easily or don't get at all) and ultimately to the Highest!!!!
As everything in nature is quite balanced and have a reason, so is true about the phenomenon of low state of our default senses and with Sadhana transmigration to higher state of consciousness.

As the educated, contemplating and intellectuals, the onus is on us to not make The obvious Mistake. And, If we don't want utilise our ability to have Faith and form Belief, we have no ground to judge Sprituality and conclude it a falsity.

Saturday, February 25, 2012

Not every description of topic is a learning material for that topic

I feel 'learning' is about 'Preciseness'. And learning about something 'deep' should be done from carefully selected source. This speech was intended to different type of occasion, people and was to be a very initial description of Truth to rest of the world. I think, if you are treating this paragraph as a description of entire Hindus, Hinduism and Ved (which no single person can describe precisely in even whole book except sorts of Swami Ji or Tatva-Darshi people) then out of many side effects one is- you loose that 'Preciseness'; other is- now you have an opinion and thought process.. you will see every thing about it wrt what you already formed... you loose opportunity to form right approach to these things in future.

Truth not to be understood. It is to be felt.

-- ## Paragraph and ideas need to be put appropriately.

Vedas and Truth is not to understand. They are to be felt. All that is documented and discussed with great complexity can become your personal experience. Like as you grew up you don't fascinate and discuss about many things (as a poor ex wireless devices such as cell phone) as they are you personal experience. You no more discuss, talk, logically try understanding it (but 40 years ago if you would have seen it..) . In fact, discussions and logic are not needed about what can be your personal experience, I think (for later is a way better state of understanding than former).
A) If you are fortunate enough to have sensed the Truthfulness and Universality of words coming out of Spiritual understanding (for ex. that of Swami Ji's and other Tatva-Gyani Atmasakshatkari Sant) (specially if you find yourself refer to them in your quest of Truth)... B) and you don't find it appropriate to just go on living in the ways of Today ... you see that humans have not reached perfection and there is a need to continue journey and need to strive to find Truth ... C) and if You can have faith............... then You need to figure out how to reach to words and personal proximity of any one who has undergone that journey and has Vedas as his personal experience. It is possible to achieve that in this very life.. before you die. In fact, it is your reality. It is not something you have to reach to or have to become. It is you. Remove impurity and purity is already there. So with much less effort than you are putting now you can shortly figure it out in your very existence. (A lock is opened very easily with right key and turning it into right direction.. otherwise it is very hard. I am suggesting you the easier way.)
Other Religions fix your appointment with God after death with the grace and sifarish of son/messenger-of-God if you be nice in your life. Hindu Dharma (Religion is not the correct translation of Dharma by their inherent meanings) asks you to meet HIM (consider the symbolic name of TRUTH) in your very life. In fat, it tells that this is the purpose of your Human life (answer to point 1). It reveals that Truth is your default experience.
Who in here will disagree that Feeling is a better state of understanding than logic? If the Marijuana example confuses you then the fact is it doesn't last. Illusions are momentarily. I guess I forgot to mention that the live encounter of that reality is not momentary. Once attained, one is crystal clear that it's the reality. He/She sees, feels and realizes every moment the reality of it. Every thing in surrounding he used to interpret the way we do as of now, he find them obeying that Truth-ness.
Ok, at least, you will, I hope, accept you may not be having some kind of knowledge. Also, you all, I hope, will accept that knowledge changes the viewpoint and attitude (pls feel free to add any other thing you feel chagnes as well) . And once you have the knowledge you will never have that viewpoint and attitude you earlier had out of darkness about subject/entity/. It is not illusion. Otherwise, you will be back to square one after some time.
Actually It's all about knowledge. Knowledge is the key. God, Soul, Absoluteness, What am I, Self-Realization.. All are about Knowledge.
You may tell a child that Fire is hot and you must now touch it. But that will be just the Information for him. It's only when he can't resist it's beauty and tries to hold it he actually gains the knowledge. So Knowledge is about experiencing it (something felt by your own).
... and : Unfortunately its not as easy and straightforward case as it was for that 'child' who saw fire for the first time. (think about the difference of understanding he will get between [he trying to logically understand Fire with his level of understanding] and [trying it himself]). .........
.......... Knowledge can have complexity. We can't claim humans including scientist posses all kind of knowledge (excluding realized saints). Hence, we can't say we have seen all kind of complexity (I hope you will agree). We can't claim that there is no complexity human mind can not afford to understand. We can't deny the fact that a Complexity can be beyond grasp of Human mind in a Human life span. But once felt you suddenly are different. Now you have that knowledge and your viewpoint & attitude will be the likes of Swami Ji (It was, I hope you will agree, certainly not what a common man follow no matter how rich and powerful he is). Sorry for talking in terms which may seem very strange, may be crap/nonsense or very superficial. But the underlying topic is extra-ordinary.

Desh/Dharma ki vartaman samasyaon ka hal: Hindu bane.

Parantu, ye sab kyon aur kaise hua? Isake kai saare uttar hain aur karana hain. Lekin sab ke peeche ye baat hai ki 'ham apane dharma se chyut ho gaye. Hamara dharma to bahut mahan aur vigyaan ki paribhasha tha parantu ham ayogya nikale. Bhartiya samaj ke Itihas pe najar daalein to spashta hai ki jaha bhi hamane dharma ki avahelana ki aur dharma ka galat upyog kiya wahi pe Videshi takato ne fayada uthaya aur ye sab hota gaya! ' Is baat ko kafi vistaar se bola ja sakata hai parantu aap jaankaar aur samajhhdaar lagate hain. Jarurat nahi samajhata.
Koi baat nahi. Hua so hua. Jo bas hone wala haii wo to ho ke hi rahega. Aaj se kuchh shatabdi pahale koi soch bhi nahi sakata tha ke ye sab ho jaaega... to ho gayi nadani aur bewakufi. Parantu ab to sab pata hai. Ab to ye baatein samajh me aa rahi hain. Aap akele nahi. FB pe kai aise log hain. Jo nahi hai wo bhi is baat ko samajh rahe hain jyadatar. Jo nahi samajh rahe unaki aankh bhi khulegi kyonki nikat bhavishya me hamari kafi durdasha hone wali hai.
Lekin ab wo galati nahi. Taaki sudur bhavishya ko bachaya jaa sake. Jo Karane ke sapane ye Videshi dekhane lage hain wo na ho sake. Aur ye bahut kathin nahi. Sahi samaya pe aankh khul rahi hai hamari. Ab galati sudharate hue ham apane dharma ke Vigyaan ko samjhein aur usakat laabh lein. Hamare dharma ek sadharan manushya ke jeevan ko Adbhut, Shaktimaan, Samarth aur Uncha banane ka gyaan rakhata hai.
FB pe Videshi-Shadayantra ko saral tareeke se logo ko batana to hai. Saath me apane dharma ki aur gaman karana hai. Fir to Bharat hi nahi Videsh me hamara anukaran hoga. Main apane chhoti si samajha me hi apane Dharma ko itana samartha paata hun. Jap, Dhyaan, Satsang, Sanyam, Vrat, Saadhana ... Ye bahut hi adbhud vigyaan hai. Jisane bhi isaka sadupyog kiya hai Itihaas gavah hai. Yahi sahi tareeka bhi hai Desh ko bachane ka. Aur koi tareeka nahi. Ham keval Hindu hi ban jaaein to Videshi yaha pe to kya apane yaha bhi nahi Tikenge. Jai Hind. Jai Gita ka gyaan.

Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Real Reality of West

अमेरिका और लन्दन में हिन्दू नेता नहीं हैं.. लेकिन चला कौन रहा है जरा पुनर्विचार करें. उनके नामी विश्वविद्यालयों, नासा, कंपनियो, अस्पतालों.. इत्यादि से अगर हिन्दू निकल जाएं तो २ घंटे के अन्दर...|

नेता हिन्दू आदर्शो वाले नहीं है इसका भी खामियाजा दुनिया और खुद ये देश भी भुगत रहे हैं जरा विचार कर के देखिये| आतंकवाद और ओसामा किसकी दें है? इसराइल - अरब संघर्ष किसकी देने है? सद्दाम हुसैन किसकी देने है? फांसीवाद और नाजीवाद कहा की उपज है? परमाणु बम, neutron बम, जैविक हथियार .. और क्या क्या बोलूं| सिनेमा पे परोसा जाने वाला सेक्स| धरती माँ के जलवायु को ख़त्म करने पे उतारू उपभोक्तावाद और व्यापर को इंसान से ऊपर समझाने वाला पूंजीवाद किस जगह से आ गया हमारे बीच? अब तो genetical modification और mutation की विधि पद गयी है इन बंदरो के हाँथ. पता नहीं क्या होगा...

ये global recession किसका किया धरा है? आप को क्या लगता है के जिनके नाम लिए है आप ने और जिन्हें छोड़ दिया है उनकी हालत क्या है? क्या वो हमारे आदर्श होने लायक हैं? क्या हमें उनका उदहारण देना चाहिए? ये suicide के रस्ते पे हैं अगर Debt crisis के बारे में पता हो आप को!! खुद तो डूबेंगे और सबको ले के डूबेंगे| हर जानकर आदमी इन्हें गलियां सुना रहा है आने वाली मंदी के लिए और आप !!!

Sunday, October 30, 2011

7 Things proved/realized/observed during Anti Corruption movement Lead by Anna Ji and Arvind Kejriwal

1. Spirit of Bharat is alive and gaining momentum again. People here don't take the lead theirself but if they get the leader with credibility they make History.
2. Next time you stand up for a cause, you will get support from people. You have to be credible, smart, dedicated and prepared.
3. Film stars and Sports person are dedicated, hard working (+itvs) and talented but Cowards, Irresponsible and Ingenuine (-ives).Even Sachin is not an exception :(. Amir Khan is a bit exception (about -ives).
5. Anna Ji and Baba Ramdev have unleashed real faces of Politicians specially Congress and BJP (as they exist as of now). But BJP is much much better than Congress still.
6. Doing Corruption will no more be Zero Risk High Profit business in country :)
7. Most valuable people in Team Anna in order: Anna Hazare, Arvind Kejriwal, Kiran Bedi, Shanti and Prashant Bhusan and (I don't know what he did and does apart from posing to sit with Anna) Swami Agnivesh.

Monday, October 24, 2011

My Interesting/Poetic/Good (I mean them though) Comments

Awesome Inspirational. Doesn't matter if it succeeds or not. Even the doing of this project is Beautiful, thinking of it is Humane, undertaking of it is a Dare, Carrying out of it is Engineering, Executing of it is Challenge. So the even the fact that this project has been attempted alone with matter.... Such a desert, on that such a vision, optimism and ambition! Unparalleled. And it is not USA or Europe or even India. I am impressed. -- On Emmanuel's [http://www.facebook.com/ehitilasha/posts/2591261297832?ref=notif¬if_t=feed_comment_reply]

‎90 + % of followers of Christianity and Islam are those who (or their ancestors) have been brutally forced to follow them causing atrocities. Or are those who captured the land from natives and slaughtered them. Where as not even a single case of such a religious barbarism about Hinduism. All are following willingly.. Hindi, Hindu, Hindustaan!!

To Sudhir:
Just one thing. How can a Bharatiya of our age be immune to things like Politics and Religion! Before being Jargons .. they are words with real meaning of immense importance!! Are we not being willful blind or irresponsible that way? We be very professional, dedicated and honest while serving a company but half-blooded about religion and country!! How!